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Recurring based on work day of month, not day - in Outlook

I need to be able to set up a recurring item in Calendar to be based off of
work day (ie: 6th business day of the month, not 6th day of the month). Is
this possible????

thank you,


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Is it possible to set a recurring reminder in the calendar of Outlook 2007
for the 5th working day of each month?

I am trying to create a recurring meeting on the fifth working day of the
month. THe only options available are upto the fourth weekday. Can fifth be
added to this options list? and if so how?

Thanks,

Steve W

I saw the post about recurring appointments every x work day, and that
worked great for me. But, now I need a recurring appointment the last 3rd
work day of every month. So, I need to set a reminder for March 27, April 28,
etc.

Any ideas how I can do that? Any and all help is greatly appreciated!!

Here's a tough one for all of you.  Is is possible to route/forward a message to a user based on the time of day and/or day of the week?  If it is not possible in Exchange 2007 or PowerShell, is there a program or utility that will?

This is the scenario.  We have a program that will send e-mail alerts to a list of people throughout the day 24/7, but I'd like to forward those alerts to an after hours call center (via e-mail of course) after hours, weekends, and during holidays.  All I can do currently is add the call center to the e-mail list and have them weed out messages recieved during business hours hoping that they have been properly resolved.

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Brian

I am using OL2003 and am trying programmatically to set a filter on a
calendar view by editing the View.XML.

I have no problems settings filters programatically on table views in
the XML of table views, but for calendar views, the filter tag does
not seem to part of the XML, and the exact same filter works on table,
timeline, card and icon views.

When I change a day/week/month view manually in Outlook and set a
filter to only include items with the category 'b', then I would have
expected to find something like this in the View.XML:

filter"urn:schemas-microsoft-comfficeffice#Keywords" = 'b'/
filter

But the filter works, and only appointments having the category b is
shown in the view, but there is no filter tag in the xml for day/week/
month views.

When I try to set the filter programmatically by inserting filter tag
in the view.xml for a day/week/month view then the filter does not
work, ie. nothing is filtered in the view. This is probably related to
the fact that filters are not shown in the view.XML as I described
above.

The way I am setting filters programmatically works for table, card,
timeline and icon views, so it is not there the problem is.

Has anybody found a way to programmatically filter day/week/month
views? or is this a known bug in calendar views ?

I am using OL2003 and am trying programmatically to set a filter on a
calendar view by editing the View.XML.

I have no problems settings filters programatically on table views in
the XML of table views, but for calendar views, the filter tag does
not seem to part of the XML, and the exact same filter works on table,
timeline, card and icon views.

When I change a day/week/month view manually in Outlook and set a
filter to only include items with the category 'b', then I would have
expected to find something like this in the View.XML:

"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office#Keywords" = 'b'


But the filter works, and only appointments having the category b is
shown in the view, but there is no filter tag in the xml for day/week/
month views.

When I try to set the filter programmatically by inserting filter tag
in the view.xml for a day/week/month view then the filter does not
work, ie. nothing is filtered in the view. This is probably related to
the fact that filters are not shown in the view.XML as I described
above.

The way I am setting filters programmatically works for table, card,
timeline and icon views, so it is not there the problem is.

Has anybody found a way to programmatically filter day/week/month
views? or is this a known bug in calendar views ?

In Outlook, can you set a recurrence for the first work day of the month --
that is, automatically skipping Sat and Sun?

It some time happens because of the change in Date and time of your computer. Just chek it out, is it right as per current date and time to the location you have moved.

Thnaks
vishal

TJA wrote:

Appointments not showing up in Day/Week/Month View
03-Apr-08

I am trying to fix this problem for a co-worker. His Outlook is not
displaying the appointments in his day/week/month view. He does not see
anything in Outlook 2003 and he is not on Exchange. However, if you look at
the calendar to the right, the days that do have appointments are displayed
in bold (so you know something is there), but when you click on that date,
nothing is displayed.
I had him switch to the Category View and you can see all of the
appointments there and even open them. But switching back to the
day/month/view it appears as if there is nothing.
I have never seen this before. How can I help him to have these displayed?
Thanks in advance!

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On Thursday, April 03, 2008 10:37 AM
TJA wrote:

Appointments not showing up in Day/Week/Month View
I am trying to fix this problem for a co-worker. His Outlook is not
displaying the appointments in his day/week/month view. He does not see
anything in Outlook 2003 and he is not on Exchange. However, if you look at
the calendar to the right, the days that do have appointments are displayed
in bold (so you know something is there), but when you click on that date,
nothing is displayed.
I had him switch to the Category View and you can see all of the
appointments there and even open them. But switching back to the
day/month/view it appears as if there is nothing.
I have never seen this before. How can I help him to have these displayed?
Thanks in advance!

On Thursday, April 03, 2008 2:43 PM
Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote:

Re: Appointments not showing up in Day/Week/Month View
try resetting the view
http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/resetview.htm

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Re: Appointments not showing up in Day/Week/Month View
try changing or resetting the view.
http://www.outlook-tips.net/beginner/resetview.htm

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On Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:21 PM
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How many calendar folders does he have in his profile?
How many calendar folders does he have in his profile?

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Re: Appointments not showing up in Day/Week/Month View
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I am having this same problem. Were you able to get it resolved?

On Friday, May 23, 2008 1:23 AM
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Thanks for the quick response. I tried that as well and it did not
help. I am still having the same problem. Any other suggestions??

On Friday, May 23, 2008 1:23 AM
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I am not really sure how to answer that question. As far as I know, I
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On Tuesday, July 15, 2008 6:17 PM
Decker wrote:

I'm having sme problem, have tried resetting views (per recommendations).
I am having sme problem, have tried resetting views (per recommendations).
Appointments show up in "Active Appointments" table, but not on
Day/Week/Month view.

"TJAC" wrote:

On Wednesday, July 16, 2008 12:55 AM
Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote:

Are the dates of the appointments within the period you are viewing?
Are the dates of the appointments within the period you are viewing?

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On Wednesday, July 16, 2008 2:13 PM
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Most definately.

"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote:

On Thursday, July 17, 2008 12:31 AM
Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote:

did he create the appointments on an ipod or iphone and sync them to outlook?
did he create the appointments on an ipod or iphone and sync them to
outlook? it appears to be a known issue.

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On Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:36 AM
Decker wrote:

Yes, that's the issue.
Yes, that is the issue. Maybe it cannot be fixed on the Outlook side, but must
b e fixed by Apple in their software.
Thanks.

"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote:

On Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:54 PM
Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote:

See if this works for the disappearing from day/week/month view but visible in
See if this works for the disappearing from day/week/month view but visible
in category view problem:

On the iPhone: open the event and change it to recurring daily then end the
recurrence on the date of the event. (Apparently events created in the
iphone are always recurring.)

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On Thursday, July 17, 2008 4:43 PM
rup wrote:

Hello!
Hello!
I also have the same problems...
I tried a lot of things, non of them really worked. But I think the problems
are caused by the time-zone support. I deactivated the timezone support and
activated "Cupertino" (I think this was the standard entry; I am from
Austria/Europe) and suddenly 10 items were visible again in the week-view -
BUUUTTTTTTT they disappered again about one or thwo hours later (((((
But nevertheless I think the time-zone is the problem. Because I enter a
"whole-day-item" (sorry I don't know the name in english) on the iPhone, it
sometimes appears in my Outlook as a "two-day-item"... So I think, the
time-zone is shifted between my Outlook and my iPhone, and they are not able
to handle it, and so am I ((((
Perhaps someone else could try it out, perhaps I am right, perhaps I am
wrong...

"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote:

On Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:29 PM
Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote:

did you try changing the appointments on the iphone so they aren't repeating
did you try changing the appointments on the iphone so they aren't repeating
and then re-sync?

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On Friday, July 18, 2008 3:16 PM
Decker wrote:

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THIS WORKED! Thanks so much for sticking with me.

"Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote:

On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 4:00 PM
Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote:

Will it also work not to set alerts?
Will it also work not to set alerts? While it defeats one purpose of a
calendar... it will be a bit easier than snoozing everything.

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On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 5:05 PM
Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote:

Re: Appointments not showing up in Day/Week/Month View
It's Apple's problem Because of past issues with the itunes addin for
outlook which is required for calendar sync, we think that is where the
current problem lies. The common denominator seems to be itunes 7.7 - both
iphone versions are affected and we've had a few reports of problems on
ipods. So... if you want to try reverting to v 7.5, let us know if it fixes
your problems.
http://content.info.apple.com/iTunes...nes75Setup.exe

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On Wednesday, July 23, 2008 8:53 PM
Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote:

Did you reset the reminder in Outlook? Maybe remove it?
Did you reset the reminder in Outlook? Maybe remove it?

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On Thursday, July 24, 2008 11:04 AM
Diane Poremsky {MVP} wrote:

if you need to see it on the Day/Week/Month calendar, snooze instead of
if you need to see it on the Day/Week/Month calendar, snooze instead of
dismissing. The default is to snooze for up to 2 weeks but you can type
anything there - you'll need to type use full words (6 weeks), not the
shortcuts (6w) used in other date fields.

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on downgrading: reports in the apple forum that it worked, but someone tried
it here and said it didn't help existing appointments.

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On Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:33 AM
matt.r.marshal wrote:

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On Jul 18, 2:16=A0pm, Deckerd wrote:
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I'm having this same issue with some Appointments showing up in All
Appointments or By Category views, but not in the Day/Week/Month
view. The appointments are on the iPhone (and in Outlook calendar),
however, simply aren't showing up in the Day/Week/Month view. I did
try setting the Recurrence of the meeting on the iPhone to Daily with
and end date of the same date. This didn't change anything.

Also, it also appears to be somewhat random. The ones that don't
appear aren't consistent for whether they were created on the iPhone
and sync'd to Outlook or created in Outlook and sync'd to the iPhone.
Also, it doesn't seem to matter whether they are appoiments (only me)
or meetings (with others). Nor whether I am the meeting organizer or
have accepted someone else's meeting. The ones that are missing are a
variety of meeting/appointment types, while others of the same "type"
ARE showing up. This is very baffling. I have noticed that it seems
to affect current appointments mostly. For example, all of today's
appointments showed up correctly at the start of today. However,
during the day, some meetings would disappear after their appointment
time (while of course others remained). Arg. Any new information or
help out there?

On Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:33 AM
Matt wrote:

Well, I figured out that it has to do with the alerts.
Well, I figured out that it has to do with the alerts. If an alert is
changed in any way after syncing to the iphone, it will disappear from
the Day/Week/Month view in Outlook. This occurs whether the alert
change is done manually either in Outlook or on the iPhone or
automatically by dismissing the alert once it pops up. Either way,
after the next sync, it will be gone.

The only thing I can think of is to Snooze every alert for 2 weeks,
but that will start to catch up...

You can "recover" your past missing appointments by finding them in
the All Appointments view, and adding an alert back to the appointment
and snoozing it (since it occured in the past, the alert will go off
immediately).

Yuk. But at least I now know what's happening - it was driving me
crazy!

On Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:33 AM
eric.kernodl wrote:

Re: Appointments not showing up in Day/Week/Month View
On Jul 23, 2:57=A0pm, Matt wrote:

Ok - makes me feel a little better that someone esle is having the
same issue.

At the start of the day, I had 7 meetings today prior to 3:00. Now (at
3:30) looking at my calendar in the iPhone I have 7 meeitngs, but in
the Outlook Day/Week view I have 3. So, 4 of my meeting have
"disappeared". As everyone else, these show if you go searching for
them in Outlook, and in my case all of these were created originally
in Outlook.

This is a MAJOR issue, and is making my iPhone...well....just a phone.
Synching Calendars is worthless at this point, and I'm afraid that
even not syncing it will make the meetings disappear after the alert
goes off....

On Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:34 AM
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On Jul 23, 5:05=A0pm, "Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote:
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I realize the bug was introduced by the apple upgrade, however the
problem remains --- I have an Outlook appointment, created in
Outlook, that now vanishes after the reminder is dismissed.

I assume it' some setting in the appointment that is being changed
when I sync, but I would think that Outlook has a way to change that
flag back? I'm fine with not syncing to the iPhone anymore until this
is resolved, but I woudl like a way to make changes in Outlook so my
appointments continue to appear.

I'm aware of the workaround to save the appointment as a ics file &
reaccepting it, however that loses the list of attendees and the
attachments. Other options?

On Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:34 AM
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On Jul 23, 8:53=A0pm, "Diane Poremsky {MVP}" wrote:
community/en-us/default.mspxor point your

Tried resetting the reminder on a past appointment which disappeared,
it did not reappear.

Here's the scenario from yesterday: I had three types of appointments
on my calendar: some created by me with no attendees, some created by
me with attendees, and some received by me from another person. These
were all synced to the iPhone (v2.0 with iTunes 7.7). During the day
yesterday, as the reminders popped up, I dismissed them & attended the
meetings. At the end of the day, all of these no longer showed in the
day/week view of Outlook, however they all still show correctly in the
iPhone. If I search in Outlook for a specific appointment, I can find
it, so it does still exist.

On Saturday, July 26, 2008 9:34 AM
mark.bitro wrote:

So glad to find this!
So glad to find this! I'm having exactly the same problem. I'm using
Windows Vista Ultimate, Outlook 2007 and iTunes 7.7 and syncing from
an iPhone 3G. For what it's worth, here's what I've been able to
reproduce every time today:

- Create a regular, non-repeating, non-all-day event on the iPhone
(e.g. a simple 1-hour meeting from 9am to 10am tomorrow)
- With Outlook open and in the Day/Week/Month view, connect the iPhone
and sync in iTunes
- Initially, the event appears correctly in Outlook
- Now switch away from the calendar view in Outlook (say, to Mail or
Contacts) and back again. It's gone!
- Switch to any other calendar view (e.g. Active Appointments) and
you'll see it's still there. It's also still on the iPhone.
- On the iPhone, set the event as repeating daily, but starting and
ending on the same day (as suggested already on this thread).
- Sync again. Ta-da! It's re-appeared!
- Remove the recurrence information (on iPhone or Outlook) and sync
again. It vanishes again from Day/Week/Month view but is still there
in other views and of course, still on the iPhone.

Haven't tried downgrading to iTunes 7.5 yet. Has anyone had any
success with that?

If I find anything else useful I'll post it here.

Cheers,
Mark

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On Thursday, October 30, 2008 7:42 PM
helen crozier wrote:

outlook appointments not available in certain views
Hi I've had the iphone/outlook problem... I've spent hours on the phone to both microsoft and apple...each say it's the other's problem. I even took the laptop into apple (windows vista oh well) and showed them...they said there might be a fix but it would take ages and to schedule a longer visit. I haven't done it yet but seeing as 3 or so months has passed was wondering if there is an update on this situation.

Strangely enough I just received a .vcs appointment as an attachment in an email. I opened it and accepted it into outlook. It appears in the active appointments view but not in day/week/month views. Message class is ipm.appointment I checked. Scarey that this was nothing to do with iphone. I have always loved and promoted outlook as a time/task tool but now I'm worried that it's so unreliable. Any news would be much appreciated. cheers

On Monday, July 27, 2009 3:08 AM
Massis wrote:

Outlook View Setting
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On Wednesday, January 27, 2010 3:04 PM
George Teachman wrote:

why doesnt appt show up in Month view
Hello all,

I have the same problem (in Office 2007, under Windows XP Pro) but without the iPhone issue. I enter my appts in Outlook and cannot not see them in the Month view.

After reading all the posts, I got the idea to change the view from Day/Week/Month to Day/Week/Month View With AutoPreview. I can now see my appts in the monthly calendar.

Thanks for the inspiration.

George Teachman

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Can you set a recurring meeting for certain days of the year without an
established daily, weekly, monthly or yearly timeframe? Such as March 22,
April 12, May 15, June 14, July 17, etc.

I want to set up a recurring appointment in Outlook 2003 that happens only on
the 5th Sunday in a month - months which do not have a 5th Sunday (most of
them!) will not get the appointment. There seems to be no way to do this?

Does Outlook have an option for setting work hours based on the day of the week? I mean... something like Monday is 8 to 5 but Tuesday is 10 to 7? If not, are there any plug ins or work arounds? Lotus had a nice feature that handled this.

Does Outlook have an option for setting work hours based on the day of
the week? I mean... something like Monday is 8 to 5 but Tuesday is 10
to 7? If not, are there any plug ins or work arounds? Lotus had a nice
feature that handled this.

--
engineer

I've tried all the options but I can't specify recurrence for e.g 4th working
day of the month, just 4th day of the month.

Help!

When I try to print a full month calendar in Outlook 2007, multi-day items
are not wrapping to the next row of the calendar. Instead, they extend off
the right margin and depending on the length, the text isn't visible because
it's centered off the page.

While looking for information about this issue I found another newsgroup
with a thread about the problem: microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.outlook.cale ndaring/browse_thread/thread/69bd5d220a809919/951f39b7c566c7 c1?lnk=st&q=outlook+2007+calendar+doesn%27t+print+correc tly&rnum=1&hl=en#951f39b7c566c7c1

Some people there found that changing the print format to 2 page/month
solved the issue and the items beging to wrap around correctly. I tried this
and it does indeed cause the items to wrap correctly. However, I need to
print a more professional calendar than this solution permits. Splitting the
month in the middle of a page isn't a useful solution for me.

This looks like a bug that effects many people. Has anyone else determined
a solution to this issue or is the Microsoft Office team working on a fix?

Thanks,

Jason

Whatever view I use (day, week or month) shows all current and future
appointments on every day, on every day of the week, and across the week in
every month. This includes all-day events and those with timing within one
day. Anyone else run into this? I've downloaded all updates, run a virus
scan, and tried the Detect & Repair function to no avail.

When I try to print a full month calendar in Outlook 2007, multi-day items
are not wrapping to the next row of the calendar. Instead, they extend off
the right margin and depending on the length, the text isn't visible because
it's centered off the page.

While looking for information about this issue I found another newsgroup
with a thread about the problem: microsoft.public.outlook.calendaring,
http://groups.google.com/group/micro...39b7c566c 7c1

Some people there found that changing the print format to 2 page/month
solved the issue and the items beging to wrap around correctly. I tried this
and it does indeed cause the items to wrap correctly. However, I need to
print a more professional calendar than this solution permits. Splitting the
month in the middle of a page isn't a useful solution for me.

This looks like a bug that effects many people. Has anyone else determined
a solution to this issue or is the Microsoft Office team working on a fix?

Thanks,

Jason

Hi all

We've developed a custom monthly calendar which changes colours and font weights based on the category of the item in Outlook. It works well, however we've only managed to figure out how to apply it to the AllDayAppointment's, i.e.:

.....

We display our other, more specific appointments, using:

Is there a way we can modify the colour/font attributes of these appointments using ConditionalFormat lines, so that each appointment can appear differently?

Hope this makes sense

Thanks

Brett.

Hello,

For some strange reason I can not see the days of the week in the calendar
when I have the 7 days view. The date appears on each day but not the name of
the day of the week, and it is really annoying not to know if I am watching
at the Wednesday or Friday.... can somebody help me please?

In Groupwise there is a Date Difference tool that will allow you to calculate
the specified number of calendar days or work days from a given date. For
example, you want to know what day is 25 work days from today, it will not
count weekends and holidays you have in your calendar and caluculate the date.

Is there any way to do this in Outlook?

I am able to view another Hotmail user's calendar that has been shared with
me only if I log into Hotmail on the web, but it's not syncing that calendar
to my Outlook, and won't let me add it from within Outlook. The message I
get when I try to do that is "unable to display the folder. your profile is
not configured to support this operation for this user."

The other Hotmail user is having the same problem viewing my calendar - he
can see it if he logs into Hotmail/MSN, but not in Outlook.

We are both using the subscription Live Mail service so have the most recent
version of Outlook. Neither of us is running behind an Exchange server.
What are we doing wrong?

Thanks.

Vanessa

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Why can I not see the day of the week in my calendar? In every view I try I
can't see it. I can see the date however.
Many thanks,
L

I am trying to change to size of the days of the week in a monthly calendar
and can't seem to find out how.


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